abortion ?

[pnyikos]

There are two kinds of abortion in the U.S. ‹ in-clinic abortion and the
abortion pill.
Abortions are very common. In fact, more than 1 out of 3 women in the U.S.
have
an abortion by the time they are 45 years old.

I wonder if PP is confusing this with the 1 in 3 pregnancies that end
in induced (not spontaneous) abortion. Did they do an extensive poll?

If you are pregnant, you have options. If you are trying to decide if
abortion
is the right choice for you, you probably have many things to think about.
Learning the facts about abortion may help you in making your decision.

Learning the facts about adoption, and resources to help her if she
decides to keep the baby (like Birthright and -- here in Columbia, SC
-- Daybreak) is also of help.

You may
also want to learn more about parenting and adoption.

Unfortunately, I see little sign that PP is at all interested in
informing women of these facts and plenty that it is not. The
statistics for 2010 are startling:

332,278 abortions; 7,021 prenatal clients; and 977 adoption referrals
--http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf

PP fought tooth and nail against the South Carolina "Women's Right to
Know" bill which makes it mandatory to make such information available
to women coming in for an abortion.

You can read about this in the multi-installment article I posted to
the abortion newsgroups, starting with:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/68fbac2ff587e2f6

Another thing that PP probably doesn't care to tell women about is how
they can get paternity support from the father of their unborn child.
Paternity support was a prime mover behind the newsgroup
alt.abortion.inequity, which I've added to the newsgroups.

If you are under 18, your state may require one or both of your parents to
give
permission for your abortion or be told of your decision prior to the
abortion.
However, in most states you can ask a judge to excuse you from these
requirements. Learn more about parental consent for abortion.
Only you can decide what is best for you. But we are here to help. A staff
member at your local Planned Parenthood health center can discuss abortion
and
all of your options with you and help you find the services you need.
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion-4260.asp>

...

This, of course, is a website with links to other websites. What a
woman gets told at PP would seem to be a different story, what with
the track record described above. PP knows which side its bread is
buttered on: in 2010, abortions accounted for over 50% of clinic
income from customers ("patients").

and some abortions are not so much a choice as the only or best way to
save a woman's life. And not a concern of a government official. like a
judge.

Of course, almost all pro-lifers allow it if it is the only way to
save a woman's life. But some, like the head of ALL, Judie Brown,
deny that this is ever the only way or even the best way to save her
life [except for ectopic pregnancies, where the child is doomed to die
anyway], in the USA. And I have yet to read of an actual case here on
Usenet that happened less than 10 years ago.

Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
nyikos @ math.sc.edu

[Mr. K]

In article

Post by pnyikos

There are two kinds of abortion in the U.S. ‹ in-clinic abortion and the
abortion pill.
Abortions are very common. In fact, more than 1 out of 3 women in the U.S.
have
an abortion by the time they are 45 years old.

I wonder if PP is confusing this with the 1 in 3 pregnancies that end
in induced (not spontaneous) abortion. Did they do an extensive poll?

If you are pregnant, you have options. If you are trying to decide if
abortion
is the right choice for you, you probably have many things to think about.
Learning the facts about abortion may help you in making your decision.

Learning the facts about adoption, and resources to help her if she
decides to keep the baby (like Birthright and -- here in Columbia, SC
-- Daybreak) is also of help.

You may
also want to learn more about parenting and adoption.

Unfortunately, I see little sign that PP is at all interested in
informing women of these facts and plenty that it is not. The
332,278 abortions; 7,021 prenatal clients; and 977 adoption referrals
--http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf
PP fought tooth and nail against the South Carolina "Women's Right to
Know" bill which makes it mandatory to make such information available
to women coming in for an abortion.
You can read about this in the multi-installment article I posted to
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/68fbac2ff587e2f6
Another thing that PP probably doesn't care to tell women about is how
they can get paternity support from the father of their unborn child.
Paternity support was a prime mover behind the newsgroup
alt.abortion.inequity, which I've added to the newsgroups.

If you are under 18, your state may require one or both of your parents to
give
permission for your abortion or be told of your decision prior to the
abortion.
However, in most states you can ask a judge to excuse you from these
requirements. Learn more about parental consent for abortion.
Only you can decide what is best for you. But we are here to help. A staff
member at your local Planned Parenthood health center can discuss abortion
and
all of your options with you and help you find the services you need.
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion-4260.asp>

This, of course, is a website with links to other websites. What a
woman gets told at PP would seem to be a different story, what with
the track record described above. PP knows which side its bread is
buttered on: in 2010, abortions accounted for over 50% of clinic
income from customers ("patients").

and some abortions are not so much a choice as the only or best way to
save a woman's life. And not a concern of a government official. like a
judge.

Of course, almost all pro-lifers allow it if it is the only way to
save a woman's life. But some, like the head of ALL, Judie Brown,
deny that this is ever the only way or even the best way to save her
life [except for ectopic pregnancies, where the child is doomed to die
anyway], in the USA. And I have yet to read of an actual case here on
Usenet that happened less than 10 years ago.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/

...

so the question remains. Who decides. Your doctor or a judge. a judge
has no medical training and a decision can take some precious hours.
Sounds like a "Death Panel" to me.